Welcome to Think Bibically, Conversations on Faith and Culture, a podcast from

Taub School Theology Biola University. I'm your host Sean McDow, Professor of

Apologetics. And I'm your co-host, Scott Ray, Dean of the Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics.

Oftentimes on the Think Biblical Podcast, we'll look at a cultural issue, we'll look at a political issue,

we'll look at some ethical issue. We'll look at some ethical issue and try to help you think

bibically about it. But occasionally we want to go back to the scriptures and just look at issues

like discipleship and say, how do we think about discipleship in our

contemporary moment? Well we have a guest today who's written a book called the

Revolutionary disciple and when I think of discipleship,

I don't know anyone who's written better on this

but is practicing this than our guest today.

His name is Jim Putnam.

He's the senior pastor of real life ministries in beautiful post-falls, Idaho.

And I have been to his church many times and can just testify to the ministry and discipleship that is taken there.

So, Jim, we really appreciate you joining us.

Well it's a pleasure I just love what you guys do. Well let's just jump right in

before we get to some things in your book can you share your personal journey to become a

Christian? Well Sean your dad actually played a big part in that I grew up in the

church and had a distaste for it and walked away an atheist, alcoholic,

and my dad challenged me with, you know, that there were scientists who were Theis, which I thought was ridiculous.

And that led me to investigate that issue and come to the conclusion.

Yeah, there was probably a God, but which one?

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