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The Last Archive

The Returns: Epiphany

The Last Archive

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, History

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 February 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Each week on ‘The Returns,’ we pull a different episode from our own archive to help put our present politics into historical context.

This episode, Epiphany, first ran in 2021, as the finale to Season 2, which was all about lies, fakes, frauds, and hoaxes. In this episode, Jill Lepore takes listeners down the winding path from the little-known Iron Mountain hoax of the late 1960s to the Capitol insurrection on January 6th, 2021.

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:15.0

An election is meant to produce a fact. Who do the citizens of this country want to lead them?

0:18.0

And the production of facts is sort of our meat and potatoes here at the last archive.

0:23.0

We made our second season in 2021.

0:26.0

We'd started working on it in late 2020.

0:29.0

I don't remember how Jill was planning on ending it back then,

0:32.0

but I do know that on January 6, 2021, whatever that plan was, went out the window.

0:38.0

On that day, Rioters stormed the United States Capitol Building in an attempt to stop the certification of the

0:44.5

2020 election.

0:46.1

They were denying a fact.

0:48.0

This was an insurrection.

0:49.6

The FBI saw it as an act of terrorism. Multiple deaths have been linked to that day,

0:55.0

some in the chaos of it, some by suicide after.

0:58.0

Since then, hundreds have been convicted of crimes,

1:01.0

including the crime of seditious conspiracy.

1:05.2

The aftermath of that day is still playing out, most recently in the Supreme Court.

1:10.2

It has a deep influence on the 2024 election, raising questions about whether Trump can even legally run for president.

1:17.0

But today, I want to revisit the inciting incident and play you the finale of our second season an episode called

1:24.6

epiphany which is all about January 6th 2021 in the moment that an election which

1:30.5

had produced a single fact the fact of Joe Biden's presidency,

1:34.6

instead split the country into two irreconcilable realities.

1:39.3

Here's the episode. There's a place in our world where the known things go.

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