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WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

The Return of Stagflation

WSJ Opinion: Free Expression

Gerard Baker, Editor at Large, The Wall Street Journal

Society & Culture, News

4.6591 Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Free Expression, Wall Street Journal Editor at Large Gerry Baker speaks with economist Mohamed El-Erian about when the U.S. economy will see any relief from the high rate of inflation, the mistakes made by the Federal Reserve to try to fix the problem, and the probability of a recession under Joe Biden's fiscal policies.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Free Expression with Jerry Baker.

0:08.8

Hello and welcome to Free Expression with me, Jerry Baker, from the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

0:13.4

Thank you very much for joining us. And if you're not already, please be sure to subscribe at Apple Podcast, Spotify and elsewhere.

0:19.3

Do kindly leave us a very nice review.

0:21.8

Free expression, we believe, is essential to a healthy democracy.

0:24.7

And each week on this podcast, I aim to contribute by having a wide-ranging,

0:28.2

candid conversation with leading practitioners and commentators in the world of politics,

0:32.2

business, economics, technology, the arts and culture, exploring in depth the themes,

0:36.7

people, and topics shaping our world. My guest this week, a very big week for the US and culture, exploring in depth the themes, people and topics shaping our world.

0:38.7

My guest this week, a very big week for the US and global economy, I'm glad to say, is

0:42.9

Mohamed L. Aryan, economist and long-standing expert on global financial markets.

0:48.4

Muhammad worked for many years at Pimco, the preeminent bond investment fund, where he was CEO and

0:52.1

co-chief investment officer. He was also

0:54.2

CEO of Harvard Management Company, which invests Harvard University's significant endowment. He is now

1:00.2

president of Queens College, Cambridge, and chief economic advisor to Allianz, the insurance giant.

1:04.4

Now, among many notable calls in his long and successful career, Muhammad was one of several

1:09.6

prominent economists who last year warned that

1:12.2

inflation was a serious and sustained threat to the US economy, and he called for action by

1:16.8

policymakers, particularly the central bank, to address the challenge. Now, this was at a time when

1:21.1

the Federal Reserve and the Biden administration were dismissing the jump in inflation as

1:25.0

infamously transitory. A year later, Muhammad's warnings have proved sadly prescient, and we're now struggling with the consequences of what appears to be significant complacency by the policy makers. So, Mohamed Elarion joins me now. Thanks, Mohamed. Thank you. So as I say, very big week for the economy. I should say we're recording this Tuesday afternoon, New York time. Federal Reserve is meeting and they'll have

1:44.4

their decision on interest rates tomorrow, widely expected to raise rates again, but probably by 75 basis

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