The Return of Rudy
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 5 May 2021
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Rudy Giuliani played a central role, both in President Trump’s response to the Mueller investigation and in the drama in Ukraine that eventually led to Trump’s first impeachment. Now, a year later, Giuliani is back in the news, thanks to reports of a search of his apartment by federal investigators in the Southern District of New York. What exactly is Giuliani being investigated for, and how does it connect to his role in the first impeachment? What does it mean that the Justice Department reportedly decided not to move ahead with the search under the Trump administration but that Attorney General Merrick Garland gave the thumbs-up? Quinta Jurecic spoke with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes and Lawfare Deputy Managing Editor Jacob Schulz to catch up on just what is going on in the wild world of Rudy Giuliani.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | I think we can assume that the Justice Department has well more than probable cause against |
| 0:39.6 | Rudy Giuliani. |
| 0:40.6 | If this were a marginal case, I don't think for a search warrant, I don't think, you know, |
| 0:47.3 | Merrick Garland would have taken a significantly different view than the Justice Department |
| 0:52.9 | did. The US Attorney's Office in New York is most unlikely to execute a search warrant |
| 0:59.5 | or the FBI is most unlikely to execute a search warrant against a lawyer acting in his capacity |
| 1:06.2 | as a lawyer who's representing the former president of the United States who also happens |
| 1:12.7 | to be the former head of the, you know, US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New |
| 1:17.9 | York and a former associate attorney general without a very good reason to do it. |
| 1:24.0 | And so I think we should assume that the evidence is pretty compelling. |
| 1:28.4 | I'm Quintedurusic and this is the LawFair podcast, May 5, 2021. |
| 1:36.2 | Rudy Giuliani played a central role, both in President Trump's response to the Mueller |
| 1:40.4 | investigation and in the drama in Ukraine that eventually led to Trump's first impeachment. |
| 1:45.4 | Now, a year later, Giuliani is back on the news thanks to reports of a search of his |
| 1:50.5 | apartment by federal investigators in the Southern District of New York. |
| 1:55.8 | What exactly is Giuliani being investigated for and how does it connect to his role in |
| 2:00.4 | the first impeachment? What does it mean that the Justice Department reportedly decided |
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