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The Return of Debtor Prison?

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2014

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Should small crimes turn into bigger crimes for those unable to pay the fines or fees?

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This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, June 5th, 2014.

0:06.7

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:07.8

We are seeing the return of something similar to an institution cast aside long ago, debtors prisons, where the inability to pay fines associated

0:16.8

with small crimes means jail time and worse.

0:20.8

Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, evaluates the incentives for the parties involved.

0:26.0

We're beginning to hear about people who end up spending, you know, not insignificant times in jail because they're unable to pay fees that they owe the government

0:37.0

and these people are often have been charged with crimes and are unable to pay.

0:42.0

Charged with crimes and sometimes with very small crimes.

0:45.0

National Public Radio just did a series on this which is focused attention on it,

0:50.0

although the abuses have been getting coverage for a few years now.

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And the story is told by NPR

0:57.0

will begin with something like

0:58.0

catching a fish out of season

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or making an illegal left turn

1:02.0

things that don't sound as if they would get you very deeply

1:06.0

entangled with the criminal justice system, but they carry a fine and if the fine is $150, it might sound like something that even a relatively poor person could handle.

1:18.0

And then the combination of additional penalties for not sending in a check on time or not making a court appearance with the

1:29.5

a la cart extra expenses that and this is something that have really mushroomed in the

1:37.4

last 30 years things like charges for your own arrest warrant or charges for the time you spend in jail on a per diem basis for your room and board.

1:47.0

Many of these things will turn that initial very small obligation into thousands of dollars.

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And so you wind up with originally petty offenses

2:00.0

leading to people being completely buried under the snowballing legal obligations.

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