Coming up, I'm going to talk about the FBI raid on John Bolton, overdue, in my opinion.

But I'm also going to talk about more broadly the ethics of retribution, or we can even say the ethics of revenge.

I'm going to dive into the roots of Cracker Barrel's bizarre decision to dump its logo.

It turns out there's a lot more behind that.

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John Bolton. Yes, that John Bolton has been raided by the FBI. This happened over the weekend,

and it is the first time that one of the anti-Trump, or in this case, more accurately,

never Trump leading figures, someone who's now allied with the Democratic Party,

allied with the people who went after Trump.

And so finally we're getting here a bit of, I'm not going to hesitate to use words like payback or retribution. I'm not even really afraid of the word revenge. Now, these words are loaded

and they carry a connotation, but I'm going to use these words for the very reason that you are afraid of them.

And when you think about it, you see that these words and these terms are fully and justly applicable.

Now, revenge is something that is an unpleasant thing, and it's an unpleasant thing because

not because the act is wrong, but because private people shouldn't take the law into their

own hands. So let's say, for example, that somebody comes and harms a member of your family, you go out

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