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The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Retail Philosopher Creating Waves in Egypt and Beyond

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Amir Fayo, the founder of 69 Group, marries brand architecture and art direction to create retail and hospitality concepts rooted in culture and connection. Best known for operating Egyptian stores Maison69 and Villa Baboushka, Fayo breaks with conventions to create immersive store experiences that resonate with consumers on an emotional level. Everything starts by not thinking of himself as a retailer.


“I don't know how to do retail. Retail is structured. Retail is data. Retail is numbers. … I connect to people, to how they feel, what makes them tick, what makes them be interested,” he says. 


This week on The BoF Podcast, BoF founder and editor-in-chief Imran Amed sits down with Fayo to discuss his innovative attitude toward retail.


Key Insights:


  • Fayo, who was born in Wales and raised in Egypt, says his architectural style is heavily influenced by his multicultural upbringing. “Egypt gave me a heart, the UK gave me my creativity and the US gave me my thinking process.”


  • There are three pillars to how Fayo approaches a project. The first is building an environment in which people can form an emotional memory. The second is creating a sense of social intimacy. Finally, he remains focussed on the idea of elevating the everyday. ‘I want to elevate [mundane moments] to be something that people remember, that people want to come back to,” Fayo explains.


  • When designing retail spaces, the idea of home is kept at the forefront. “When we started to define that code, I said, where is that space where there is no right and there is no wrong? It should be home,” says Fayo. “We're going to design homes because homes should be welcoming. Homes should create belonging. Homes should create easy connections.”



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0:00.0

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion.

0:08.2

Welcome to the Bof podcast. It's Friday, March 15th.

0:12.4

Last year, when I visited Cairo, I happened upon a unique store concept called Maison 69,

0:18.7

the brainchild of Amir Fio, whose underlying philosophy is to create retail and

0:24.3

hospitality concepts rooted in culture and connection. Everything starts by not thinking of himself

0:31.5

as a retailer. I don't do retail. I don't know how to do retail. Retail is structure. Retail is data. Retail is numbers.

0:42.5

And unfortunately, I don't connect to any of these. I connect to people, to how they feel, what make them tick, what make them interested.

0:51.8

And their emotional memory is very important to me.

0:58.5

How people remember us, how people feel when they interact with us.

1:04.4

This week on the BOF podcast, I sit down with Amir to discuss his unique personal history,

1:10.5

his innovative, emotive approach to retail, and the philosophy that underpins it.

1:14.0

Here's Amir Fio on the BOF podcast.

1:19.8

Hello, Amir Fio, welcome to London.

1:20.7

Hello.

1:25.3

Thank you for joining me here in London for the BOF podcast. This conversation has been a long time coming because when I was

1:29.7

in Egypt last year in Cairo, I had the pleasure of visiting Maison 69 and then doing a bit of

1:37.7

research about you. And I thought, how this guy would make for a very interesting BO. podcast one day. And here you are in the flesh. But before we talk about Maison 69, I want to go way back. Well, maybe not that far back.

1:54.5

Let's go way back. Back back in history. And just tell us a little bit about growing up.

2:01.4

Where did you grow up?

2:02.3

What were you like growing up?

2:03.4

You have such an interesting, multifaceted way of describing your work.

2:08.5

But I want to know, like, who was the young Amir?

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