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From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, the place we get

views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking without all that hysterical

nonsense you find everywhere else. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're

going to be talking about the Respect for Marriage Act, which was just signed by President Biden

and is now becoming law. Before you jump in, though, a quick promo.

Tomorrow, we are going to be sitting down with Simon Rosenberg,

and we're going to have a newsletter transcript of our conversation and a podcast,

also going out at some point.

In our final Election Day preview on the day of the 22

midterms, I gave a little space to Rosenberg in a sea of predictions about the red wave and the

bad day that was coming for Democrats. Rosenberg, who is a Democratic strategist, was predicting

the opposite, that Democrats were going to fare better than people thought and have a

historically good midterm. I wrote in that final preview that if he ended up being right, he'd be on

an island. I would be sure to call him out as someone who got it right. And I would also try and

talk to him. Well, he did end up being right. And so on Monday, I sat down with a man who got it right

for an hour-long conversation about why he saw something so few other people did and what he thinks is coming in 2024.

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