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The Lawfare Podcast

The Report, Part VI: Back Channels

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2019

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

It’s December 29, 2016. The Obama administration announces that it’s imposing sanctions on Russia, as punishment for election interference. Michael Flynn has been tapped to become Trump’s national security advisor when the new administration takes office in January, but it’s still the transition period. Flynn is taking a few days vacation at the beach, when he sees the news. He grabs his phone and texts the transition team at Mar a Lago. He writes “Tit for tat with Russia not good” and says that the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak is reaching out to him today. Flynn calls Kislyak and asks that Russia not escalate in response to the sanctions. Apparently, it works. The next day, in a surprise move, Putin says that Russia won’t retaliate. Trump tweets, “Great move on delay (by V. Putin). I always knew he was very smart.”

In the sixth episode, we tell the stories of Russian policy outreach to the Trump campaign, a story that begins during the campaign and accelerates after Trump unexpectedly wins the presidency in November 2016. The story of the Russian efforts to reset relations with the incoming administration begins with a policy speech Trump delivers at a hotel in Washington D.C.; it runs through a resort at a remote island in the Indian Ocean; it runs through the U.N. Security Council, Mar a Lago and the Dominican Republic, and it ends with the president’s national security adviser resigning in disgrace.

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0:55.6

Podcasts to listen to both series.

1:02.6

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1:08.1

and The One You're Listening To Right Now.

1:15.1

Previously on The Report.

1:18.5

The FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's

1:24.6

efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

1:28.6

Trump announces with some fanfare his team.

1:32.0

It includes George Poppidopoulos, Carter Page.

1:35.0

Putin said Donald Trump is brilliant.

1:37.0

And I said, you think I'm going to disavow that state, but are you crazy?

1:41.3

I went into a plea with my eyes closed.

1:44.4

This is a crisis for Manafort.

1:46.2

He's so over leveraged.

1:48.2

I don't understand how, on four different occasions, a thizal warrant was issued against an

1:53.1

American citizen.

1:54.1

That word that Manafort has resigned from the Trump campaign is stepping down.

2:06.0

It's December 29, 2016.

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