The Report, Episode 9: Honest Loyalty
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 29 September 2019
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
It’s January 26, 2017. Sally Yates is the acting Attorney General; she’s leading the Justice Department until Jeff Sessions is confirmed by the Senate. Yates has just learned some alarming news. The new National Security Advisor Michael Flynn has lied to FBI agents. He’s told them that he hadn’t discussed sanctions in a call with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak. But he had. And it looks like Flynn has lied to the vice president about it as well. Yates calls White House Counsel Don McGahn. She says they have to meet right away. Yates knows that the FBI has the tape to prove Flynn lied, which is a crime, but right now there’s an even bigger problem: the Russians probably have the tape too.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | It's January 26, 2017. |
| 0:38.3 | Sally Yates is the acting attorney general. |
| 0:41.1 | She's leading the Justice Department until Jeff Sessions is confirmed by the Senate. |
| 0:45.9 | Yates has just learned some alarming news. |
| 0:49.0 | The new national security adviser, Michael Flynn, has lied to federal agents. |
| 0:55.0 | He's told them that he hadn't discussed sanctions and a call with Russian ambassador Sergei |
| 0:59.5 | Kislyak. |
| 1:01.3 | But he had. |
| 1:02.3 | And it looks like Flynn has lied to the Vice President about it as well. |
| 1:05.7 | Yates calls White House counsel Don McGan. |
| 1:08.3 | She says they have to meet right away. |
| 1:10.6 | Yates knows that the FBI has the tape to prove Flynn lied, which is a crime. |
| 1:16.1 | But right now, there's an even bigger problem. |
| 1:19.5 | The Russians probably have the tape too. |
| 1:22.6 | They were concerned that the American people had been misled about the underlying conduct |
| 1:27.9 | and what General Flynn had done. |
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