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The Documentary Podcast

The remarkable resistance of Lilo

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In the heart of Hitler’s Nazi Germany, members of the Resistance worked tirelessly and at great risk to themselves to help those whose lives were threatened. Amongst them was Elisabeth Charlotte Gloeden – known as Liselotte or “Lilo” – who, along with her husband Erich, hid Jews in their home in Berlin, before arranging safe passage for them out of Germany. The couple’s efforts went undetected until 1944 when they took in General Fritz Lindemann, who was being hunted by the Gestapo for being part of the plot to assassinate Hitler.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Stone after grey stone.

0:05.0

until you notice five brass plates embedded in the pavement here outside 23 Castani and Alley. I have to kneel down to read the names.

0:17.0

The first is Adele Schiff. She was 78 years of age according to the brass plate here when she was deported to

0:23.0

Tresiansdat camp on the 23rd of September 1942. She was killed there two

0:28.2

months later. Her daughter Hedvish deported three days afterwards and after her name it simply says

0:33.9

murdered. And if we move along a few feet there are three more stones to another

0:40.0

family all executed on the same day here in Berlin and within minutes of each other

0:45.0

the 30th of November 1944. The Glodens lived here in a comfortable flat in this apartment block.

0:57.0

Eric, the architect, his mother-in-law Elizabeth and his wife Leeselot or Lelow.

1:07.2

She's why I've come here, a face staring out at me from an old book, dark-haired, bright-eyed and smiling. A photo from before the

1:17.3

catastrophe. From before her remarkable journey of resistance.

1:23.0

My name is Fergel Keen on BBC World Service. You're listening to the remarkable

1:36.5

resistance of Lilo.

1:41.6

I'm standing now in a hotel bedroom looking across at the Gloten's apartment.

1:47.3

It was from this same building that the Gestapo spied on the family.

2:00.8

Could they see on those warm September days figures moving about in the rooms opposite. Could they hear Lilo playing the piano as they waited to pounce?

2:07.0

I've spent years studying genocide.

2:10.0

It is a subject that harrows the mind and the spirit, a story so often of blood, fear and betrayal.

2:17.0

That's why I was drawn here to the story of Lilo Gloden to find out why some, often the most

2:29.4

unexpected, will risk everything to confront evil. The evil which Lillow faced was the most terrible of the 20th century. It would take her

2:47.0

the evil which Lillow faced was the most terrible of the 20th century.

2:52.0

It would take her into the darkness of Gestapo interrogation cells.

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