Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest. He comes to us from the UK. His name is Luke Dodson. Last name is spelled D-O-D-S-O-D-S-O-N. And if you're watching this on Rockfin or YouTube, you can see his substack page. It's titled titled Flint and Steel, so you can check that out.

It does a lot of great work in writing.

And I've also been on his show, the Dodcast,

so you can hear me talk about my book Global Death Cold,

and I think I covered the West Memphis 3 to a while back.

But those are also available in William Ramsey Investigates.

But I came across or just was, I think on social media and saw that he has an article in a book that was just kind of a compilation book on Jung, right?

The great psychologist.

And the title of it is custodian of the unconscious, the life and soul of Carl Gustav Young.

But the title of his article kind of caught my eye was and is the reluctant occultist,

Carl Young and the esoteric tradition.

Really interesting.

I really recommend people to check that out and read it.

It kind of shows that some of these psychologists, these ones we know, they're a little bit more interesting maybe than some of the common things that we associate with them.

And I think this is one instance.

I think Gustav Young was, Carl Gustav Young, was more willing to read a lot of different subjects.

And I think that influences thought, but Luke can talk more about that so Luke

welcome to the show thank you for having me it's always a pleasure yeah so great great to

talk with you again for people who may not have heard our earlier talks maybe you can just kind

of talk about your journalistic interests and academic background and what led you up to this article about Young?

Sure. So my academic background is in predominantly the study of literature. So I'm very interested

in the way that people's narratives and the linguistic frameworks they use kind of shapes our understanding of reality.

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