So have you ever wondered what would happen if it completely threw out the relationship rulebook?

I mean, not just the small stuff, but literally everything. Picture a world where things like

sleeping in a separate bedroom isn't actually a sign of trouble, but of deep respect, where maybe even

living apart might bring you closer together, where the very things that we had been

taught spell relationship doom could be the secret to lasting love. These possibilities are not

just theoretical musings. They represent real choices that couples are making right now,

often in secret, afraid of judgment, but finding extraordinary connection through these unconventional paths.

And they're exactly what we explore in today's conversation, where we challenge everything

you think you know about what makes relationships work.

My guest today is Stephanie Yates-Ana Buele, or Steph Anya as she often goes by online.

She's a licensed marriage and family therapist whose insights have been featured in

time, GQ, Manity Fair, and on the TED stage.

With over 17 million views on her YouTube channel, she's bringing fresh perspectives

to how we think about relationships, challenging conventional wisdom, and offering

practical wisdom for creating stronger connections.

One thing that really struck me in this conversation was how often couples struggle not

because they're incompatible, but because they're trying to force themselves into relationship

models that simply don't fit who they are.

We talk about why some couples thrive, living apart, and how to handle family resistance

to unconventional choices.

And also what happens when we start giving our partners the benefit of a doubt and so much more. And we can tell you

hear what she has to say about the real reason most communication breaks down between couples.

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