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When you talk about the West, if you understand yourself as bearers of that tradition,

we don't have the right to despair, we have a job to do, and that is to seek the good, through, and the beautiful,

and to leave the rest to God.

I have won its Andrew Klaven, and we are here with the third and final installment of our conversations

about how to save the West, ancient wisdom for five modern crises by Spencer Klaven, no relation.

It gets cut off at the bottom, it says no relation.

He says it wherever he goes, for some reason, I don't know.

It's on the inside, Jack.

Now, it's a terrific book.

It is a really good book.

You've taken, you know, it's interesting, I mean, for some reason, your mother insisted we sent you to Yale

Oxford, you have a doctorate in the classics, but it's incredibly readable.

I mean, I see even like someone like me can actually understand some of the words.

I think, by the way, Yale was just the farthest away as they called it.

You just wanted to get rid of it.

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