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Eating For Free

The Red Carpet is Under Attack (Part 1)

Eating For Free

Joan Summers and Matthew Lawson

Society & Culture

4.8534 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

In which we talk Jake Shane at the Oscars and the consequences of 'ring-light journalism.'

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About Eating For Free:

Hosted by journalists Joan Summers and Matthew Lawson, Eating For Free is a weekly podcast that explores gossip and power in the pop culture landscape: Where it comes from, who wields it, and who suffers at the hands of it. Find out the stories behind the stories, as together they look beyond the headlines of troublesome YouTubers or scandal-ridden A-Listers, and delve deep into the inner workings of Hollywood's favorite pastime. The truth, they've found, is definitely stranger than any gossip.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

If I had legs, I'd kick you, wow.

0:02.0

Really good.

0:03.0

Like every mother's story, you know, especially... Do you think the kid was annoying? No, I can't say that. You know that kid was so damn annoying. I don't know, but she had his shoes. And it's like, that's the thing... I think the kid was annoying because of the mom. Can I tell you something? It's not that it's the mother's fault or the child's work.

0:21.5

It's society's fault.

0:22.7

It sets mothers up to fail.

0:25.2

You know, even the fact that like school gets out at three, but most jobs are done at five

0:29.1

or six.

0:30.1

Like, all those little things are so positioned to just not, are not conducive to mothering if that makes sense you know and it's

0:40.1

Julia Fox for president yeah okay I feel like we've brought this on a little bit and

0:43.9

how are you I'm good how are you I'm incredible how did you get this gig I love it

0:50.9

I don't know, honestly. But you know what? I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm You can be my American.

1:44.5

Hi, hot boy.

1:47.4

Um, guys, this is Jake Shane and you're listening to Therapus.

1:53.8

In the studio with me today is my best friend.

1:57.5

We're actually very close collaborators and we're on a group chat actually. Um,

2:02.5

we're like sort of like soulmates if you really think about it. And, you know, I can go to her

2:07.7

for anything. I can tell her about my virginity and my anxiety and about whether or not Benito Skinner

2:16.4

really likes me at all.

2:19.2

It's a person who I just feel like I've known her since birth.

2:24.2

She's been my best friend, my entire life.

2:27.5

And I would do anything she says, really.

2:29.3

It's Nicole Kidman, everybody.

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