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Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The Reckoning | Episode 10

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News, News Commentary, Arts, Society & Culture

4.79.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2016

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Through tears, and with the help of our oracle Margo Jefferson, we begin to process the election of Donald J. Trump.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi. Hey Wesley. How are you? How am I? I'm here looking at you. Happy for that.

0:11.5

Grateful for that. Sorry. So, um, is this still processing? And I'm Wesley and this is Jenna and um,

0:22.0

it's, uh, it's Wednesday after the election of, uh, Donald Day Trump.

0:35.4

And I have about 450,000 feelings and, um, yeah, I think it's kind of some, it's entirely rational

0:50.1

to be upset and it's sort of, sort of, perversely irrational at the same time. Yeah.

0:57.8

Because I can't do anything. There's, right. How upset I am. And, uh, I don't know, well,

1:06.9

I don't know what to do with all this energy. Uh, it's not even energy. What is it?

1:13.2

In our turmoil, I mean, it's, you know, we both said the only reason we got out of bed is because

1:18.8

we knew we were going to see each other. Mm-hmm. And I think it's just, it's the clash of denial and, and,

1:29.6

and the reckoning, the reckoning that this is still our country. We can't go anywhere.

1:38.6

I'm not going. I'm not going anywhere. I can't, well, I am going somewhere. I have a plane ticket.

1:42.4

I have a plane ticket that on the week, but you better come back. I'm sure I'm, I'm sure nobody

1:50.2

will want to keep me. I feel like we're all stuck for better, for worse. And we have to deal. I

1:56.9

mean, I, I think that's the biggest thing underneath all the fear, which is the biggest thing for me.

2:03.9

I have a lot of concerns about personal safety for me in my community and my family. I'm very anxious.

2:10.0

And I'm, you know, sadness and grief and, and doubt and also

2:17.9

acknowledging all the things that I ignored about what was going on and what probably would happen

2:22.9

is just the realization that this is it for worse, you know, we're here for better, for worse,

2:30.0

we're here. And we don't know what that looks like, the uncertainty, you know, if it had gone

2:35.0

the other way than at least we had a sense of what would happen, we have no idea what's going to

2:39.8

happen next. No. No. And that's really difficult. That's a really, really difficult thing to grapple with.

2:49.4

I have been thinking a lot about, you know, what my weaknesses in life, which is empathy.

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