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When you watch a competitive reality show, maybe you think about how you'd win, or how you'd celebrate your win, or how you'd be celebrated for your win.

But maybe you think about a much more powerful role for yourself.

Who's more powerful than the contestants? The judges. And we are willing to bet that like us, you've given some thought to which competitions you would love a chance to judge.

I'm Stephen Thompson.

And I'm Linda Holmes.

And today we're talking about the reality TV shows we'd like to judge on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.

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Joining us today is our co-host Glenn Weldon. Hello, Glenn.

That was a little pitchy dog. For me. For me. Also with us is Ronald Young Jr. He's the host of the film and television review podcast, leaving the theater. Hello, my friend. Ronald, it is so good to hear your voice as always. See, now I want to do like a Simon Cowell impression, but I don't have a British accent. You set the bar too high, Glenn.

I hear you.

I hear you.

All right.

I don't think we have a lot of setup to go through.

The question here was just pick a reality show you would like to judge. So let's get started. Stephen, I cannot believe I'm saying this, but I actually feel like I don't know what you're going to say since Survivor does not have judges.

Survivor does not have judges.

Survivor does not have judges. I feel equipped to judge seasons of Survivor, but not to determine the winner. At first, this was a little bit of a tricky one for me because I, you know, I'm not a good cook.

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