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Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

The Real West Wing: High Noon at the White House

Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

The Heritage Foundation

Government

4.5527 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Special guest May Mailman, Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Policy Analyst, talks about the formulation of policy at the White House and the lawfare against the president being waged by outlaw judges.

A film review is provided of a movie about a similar confrontation, the classic 1952 western, “High Noon.”

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0:00.0

Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself.

0:04.5

Mr. Chief Justice, may it please the court.

0:08.1

This is Hans von Spakovsky, and welcome to our latest episode of Case in Point.

0:12.8

The title today is the Real West Wing, or high noon at the White House.

0:17.6

As folks know, we've seen unprecedented actions by this president. He has issued,

0:25.6

the last I counted, I think, over 150 executive orders, also many proclamations and directives.

0:41.1

But he's also encountered something else we have not seen, which is lawfare waged by the judiciary that is trying to prevent him from governing the

0:50.5

executive branch, which he has a constitutional duty to do, and also trying to stop him from implementing the policies that 77 million Americans voted for him to put into office.

1:05.0

So here to discuss all that today is a special guest, Mayman may thank welcome so much to the show

1:12.1

May is the deputy assistant to the president and senior policy analyst that's a

1:19.2

longer title than I have at at Heritage before taking this 24 hour 24-7 job and it is a 24-7 job working in the White House, she was the president of the Independent Women's Forum.

1:35.5

This is actually her second tour in the White House because she was there during the first term of the president.

1:41.7

She's also former deputy solicitor general of Ohio, which means that

1:47.0

she was the person representing Ohio in the courts, arguing cases. That would include federal

1:53.5

courts also. And May, I won't hold it against you that you're a graduate of Harvard Law School,

2:00.0

but that's actually going to be relevant

2:01.6

in our discussion a little bit later. So, as I said, I mean, we're at the end of four months.

2:07.6

I've been to Washington two decades. I have never seen a president act with such dispatch and

2:14.6

act on so many different issues.

2:18.8

Look, you're in the White House, you're one of the policy people.

2:22.3

Tell folks a little bit about the process inside the White House

2:26.7

of how these policies get developed,

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