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Strolling around Nazareth in the first century,

you'd be forgiven for not knowing that, well,

according to the Bible at least,

something pretty seismic is about

to go down. It's just a sleepy village of a few hundred people and one of them happens to be

this girl called Mary. Hmm, she seems nice enough, but boy, oh boy, is her life about to change.

And what I want to know, though, is who was the real Mary?

What kind of woman did she grow up to be?

And just how difficult would it have been

to parent someone who claimed to be the son of God?

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