What have you seen from Section 8? Because that's like a trending thing that, you know, you hear a lot of people talking about. And I mean, you just mentioned it. Like, you're getting great returns on that. I mean, what have you seen as the pros and the cons? Because you're in a lot of these markets where Section 8's probably huge. Section 8 can be good. Usually if someone is saying that it's like one end of the spectrum, either it's like,

it's like horrible, it's never going to work, or it's the answer to all your prayers,

they're probably both just wrong, you know, there, which is one challenge of just our culture

today is like the polarizing.

The reality is there's, you live in the gray.

Like the, there are some tradeoffs in that rent tenants that come through HUD or are in the Section

A program, they are generally harder on the properties. The same way that if you rent to someone for

$900 a month is going to be harder on a property than someone who's renting one of the luxury

properties that you're selling it. Yep. That's just the

thing. The more income someone has, they tend to take on average better care of their stuff.

Well, also, too, when it's their money on the line. Like with Section 8, they are just being given

it. Right. Yeah. So that's that's one. But the other side is they're not as hard, they're not as bad tenants as people might say they are because most of these people have been on a list for about two years on average. And so, when I was living in Austin, I worked with some inner city kids in on the east side of Austin. 76% of those kids don't know their dad. And so I was working doing some mentoring

in that area. And one of the families there, it was a mom and her husband sort of boyfriend,

or sort of husband, but not technically, and four kids living in a one apartment, one bedroom

apartment, paying $8.50 a month. And then they got on HUD and

they got a four bed, two bath and they were coming out of pocket, $100 a month. Do they want to lose

that property? No, they really don't want to go back to a one bedroom with six people in it. Yeah.

And so they will, they'll do their best to, to take care of it. Now, you know, you get your bad eggs, but even you get your bad eggs

with tenants without that. So without HUD. So the nice part about HUD is, now it doesn't work in

every area, particularly the nicer areas that are higher property taxes, better. HUD is going to pay less

than market average would.

Really?

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