The Real Thomas Cromwell
Dan Snow's History Hit
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4.7 • 13.7K Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2020
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Everyone is Thomas Cromwell obsessed at the moment. The man who rose to be the most powerful member of Henry VIII's court, his Lord Privy Seal, Principal Secretary and Chancellor. He was a driving force behind the English Reformation and constitutional changes that emphasised the centrality of Parliament, but his current mighty reputation depends on the fictional trilogy of the genius novelist Hilary Mantel. On this podcast I talk to another genius, Tracy Borman, historian and curator of Historic Royal Palaces, a biographer of Cromwell about the reality behind the literary legend.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, folks, Dan Snow here. |
| 0:01.6 | I am throwing a party to celebrate 10 years of Dan Snow's history hit. |
| 0:06.1 | I'd love for you to be there. |
| 0:07.5 | Join me for a very special live recording of the podcast in London, in England on the 12th of September to celebrate the 10 years. |
| 0:14.1 | You can find out more about it and get tickets with the link in the show notes. |
| 0:17.5 | Look forward to seeing you there. |
| 0:24.2 | Hello, everyone. Welcome to Dan's History Hit. Day something of isolation. |
| 0:31.3 | That thing is going well. My dad is just teaching my kids via Zoom. He's got this thing where he can zoom and then he's got this PowerPoint. |
| 0:39.9 | He's thinking a PowerPoint. The guy is 81 years old, about to be 82. He's got a PowerPoint on his |
| 0:44.9 | desktop which he's zooming to his grandkids who are in London at my house, which is in the south |
| 0:50.8 | of England and his other grandkids in Toronto, Canada, and he's |
| 0:55.2 | zooming to all of those guys, and he's got PowerPoints, he's got some images he's assembled, |
| 0:59.5 | and he's currently talking to them about the Norman Conquest post-1066. So he's done, he did |
| 1:06.2 | 1066 yesterday, he's now telling them about things like the harrying of the north and the |
| 1:11.2 | pacification of the southwest of England. Bear in mind his grandkids are ranging in age |
| 1:16.4 | from four to eight. It might be a little bit overkill, but it's keeping him busy. It's keeping |
| 1:25.5 | the kids fascinated for various reasons, and it's giving me time to talk to you. |
| 1:32.3 | On this podcast, we are talking to Tracy Borman. Tracy Borman is the joint chief curator, |
| 1:40.9 | Historic Royal Palaces. She does that work alongside Lucy Worsley. She is a brilliant |
| 1:46.9 | historian and author. I met her a long, long time ago. I met her, I mean, depressingly, |
| 1:53.9 | it's probably 20 years ago now, and she and I were both starting out on the kind of career of |
| 1:57.5 | public history. She has gone to write far more distinguished books, and I know that's for darn sure. She's written a brilliant book called Elizabeth's women about the |
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