Hi everybody, this is Kimberly and this is Katie and you're listening to a date with Pam up. No, I'm just kidding because you would die if you were on that date. Guess who's back?

Pam, he's back. This is a date with Taylor. I'm by the way.

What's up with Pam installment three? Let's get up.

Yep, it's all up from here.

Love lift us up where we belong. I can go all day. I know you can. If you're new here, stop. Go back. Listen to Keith and

the date lines podcast, the thing about Pam or watch the date line episode, the thing about Pam because that's the most recent episode out of the five or maybe six. Otherwise, you'll be so confused.

And at the very least, listen to our coverage of it of the date line episode. It's a two part called what's up with Pam, right?

It's just Katie's amazing title. So the thing about Pam, the mini series starring Renee Zellwigger as Pam Hup just finished airing. So now they are calling this episode the real thing about Pam.

This episode aired on April 15th, 2022. It is season 30 episode 22. Season 30 has been just a banger hosted by Keith, our lean king whom we adore couldn't love

and more after this episode. So what is the thing about Pam Pamela Hup that is Keith says, but as much as this story is about Pam Hup, it's also about this woman. It is Leah ASCII, who is the prosecutor who put away

the rest for you wrongfully. She says before we even get started in the beginning of the episode, they're like showing clips and she says, I'm not a person who's going to sit in judgment about anybody else, but I'll put my morals and my ethics up against anyone.

I want to not be here anymore. Can we just end the podcast? I don't mean this episode. I mean, like, can we just end the podcast?

We might have just done. I'm retiring my mic. Like I burn my headphones in effigy. I'm done with this woman has done me. There are some frustrating moments of this. So I'm just saying maybe get yourself something that you can bite into. Like maybe you need some jerky or something like something you can just rip off with your teeth. Be careful if you've got crowns or twist like something you can to like a washcloth something you can ring of your hands.

Yeah, I had to stop a couple times. I had to walk away. Yeah, I think a lot of people did. We might after this podcast is over, maybe put a list of soothing calming websites. You can go to our YouTube videos of puppies that are best friends with kittens or something to call me down. Maybe if we get real hot, we can just insert some cool water sounds. Yeah, sporadically.

Okay. All right. So date line has wanted to talk to Leah ask you for years. And for some reason, she has agreed to sit down with Keith. Now given the history of her absolutely terrible decision making. I'm actually surprised she hasn't come on date line earlier.

Oh, okay. This was a terrible decision to come on date line. It is going to further ruin her life. And the fact that she chose to do it knowing what we already know about her. I'm surprised she didn't do it earlier in one of the earlier five episodes. Where you been Leah.

But for some reason, she really feels like now is the time. So let's examine that further as we get into this because there's going to be a few things that led me to kind of be like, oh, that's why. And so I feel like they're not good reasons, but I see why in someone's head, they might be a good reason. Does that make sense?

In a delusional narcissist head. I think if you were just or just I don't even know if she's a narcissist. I think she just people week person. No, I think we are in just that territory that really bums everybody out, which is I can't admit that I'm wrong.

Yeah, weak because I think strong people admit their wrong.

But it should have happened so long ago that I think that doubling down became tripling down and quadrupling down where you just kind of are just underwater.

The 90 day fiance effect. The I married someone from another country and they are for the years younger than me and make me buy them things every day.

But they really love me, even though everyone told me that they didn't, but I will not admit that I've made a mistake. Yes, it is that 90 day fiance effect.

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