People who work on this topic for the government, what they know falls into two categories.

One, classified, and they just cannot talk about it with anyone, whether they're in private or in any

scenario, right? The other information that they can lawfully talk about, historically, they've just

been discouraged from talking about, right? Like, yes, you legally can talk about this, but if you do,

you know, your reputation will be ruined, your credibility will ruin. In some cases, people have been, you know, given threats, you know, threatening their lives. So there's been all these deterrences to people speaking about even what they lawfully could. And I, and as I got to know, these few intelligence officials early on, I learned that those were the circumstances, right? And the reason no one guy ever went out on, you know, CNN or Fox or in a stand-alone article and shared his truth was because no these guys wanted to be out on a limb on their own. They don't want to be subject to ridicule by themselves. They don't want to be the one guy saying something extraordinary and then have the people who covered this up go and attack them, right? It just wasn't worth it. And so as I learned that that was the lay of the land, I presented an opportunity, a solution, which was, well, what if I make an independent film that I control, I don't set it up at a studio that's going to sensationalize it and make it all,

you know, entertainment. And I interview dozens of people who have direct knowledge of this.

And we keep it all quiet. And you're arm in arm. There's strength in numbers. Your arm and arm

with dozens of other credible people. There's no gutches. Like I would socialize who's doing it.

What's being discussed, what's being

revealed. Everyone would know the full picture that's involved. And no one outside of the circle

would know anything about it until it's done. And that, that opportunity I put forth started to

catch wind. And now I started to get passed around within government, military intelligence

circles. And I started to essentially, for lack of better words, get passed around within government military intelligence circles and I started

essentially, for lack of better words, get passed up the ladder.

All right, I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is the director and producer of the new film, The Age of Disclosure.

Dan, Farah, welcome to The Rubin Report.

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Dan, we're doing this Christmas week, and I promised people that we're going to mostly get away from politics.

So I thought, okay, we could talk aliens, we could talk intelligent life off this planet,

all of those things. The movie is somewhat political, though, so we'll see how we manage that.

But I thought before we do that, for people that are not familiar with your work, when I was

doing a little digging on you, you were one of the producers of Ready Player One, a movie and a book that I read many, many years ago,

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