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The real Roy Keane and should heading be banned

The Game

The Times

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3.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Tony Cascarino was a team mate of Roy Keane, he's been to see the film about Keane and his Republic of Ireland manager Mick McCarthy, he gives his version of their relationship.

Is heading in football about to be banned? Following recent headlines around ex players suffering from dementia, what are the risks that footballers take? Tony Cascarino - known for his heading ability is worried at the prospect of a brain scan.


And Jose Mourinho wound back the clock as his Benfica goalkeeper scored the goal that took them into the next round of the Champions League. He'll join Newcastle in the play offs with the four other english teams already through. Is the Premier League now tougher than the Champions League? 


Tony Cascarino, gregor robertson and Martin Samuel join Tom Clarke


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the game football podcast from The Times and Sunday Times.

0:08.9

A Chelsea comeback, Tottenham finishing fourth. Liverpool hitting six, Manchester City, avoiding the playoffs,

0:14.9

Arsenal strikers scoring and a near miss for Newcastle. We thought Wednesday night's

0:19.4

Champions League had it all, and then along

0:21.5

comes Jose Marino to steal the show right at the very end. Honestly, what a showman. On today's show,

0:28.0

we'll discuss the bonkers game in Benfica, Newcastle's draw against PSG and five English

0:33.0

teams heading straight through to the round of 16. We'll also hear about the real Roy Keane,

0:38.3

ask what more can be done to protect players from the effects of heading the ball, and look ahead to the weekend's action and the end of the transfer window. I'm Tom Clark, and joining me today, we have the Chief Correspondent for the Times and Sunday Times, Martin Samuel, the former Chelsea and Marseilles striker, Tony Cascarino, and the former footballer turned journalist Gregor Robertson.

0:55.3

It's here, as usual.

0:56.8

Right, forget the English teams. Sod them. Sob the lot of them. Let's start with Benfica 4, Real Madrid 2. A wonderfully cracker's game. Heading 3-2 it was heading into added time.

1:16.4

Real realised they need an equaliser, get two men sent off, basically out of fury and rage, really.

1:23.9

And then Benfica's keeper, Anatoly Trubin, scores in the 98th minute to put them in the playoffs and goal difference.

2:04.0

Jose Marino, raving on the touchline like it's 2004 all over again, celebrating with a ball boy. This was just absolutely class to swatch, wasn't it, Greg? Magnificent, yeah. And, like, you know, we can think, should we be pointing out, you know, to highlighting Josie in this? But he pointed to the goalkeeper to go up. Yeah. He's done it before. He did it against it against Porto I think and he also pointed to two outfield players and said you stay back which is fantastic against nine men yeah the fact that he'd made all the subs as well to try and shut up shop because he thought three two was enough yeah yeah yeah yeah and then he was like I can't make any more subs so, you know, what are we going to do then? They got the free kick, and you see him pointing up. And that's what a header.

2:01.5

Great delivery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he was like, I can't make any more subs. So, you know, what are we going to do? Then they got the free kick.

2:02.9

And you see him pointing up.

2:04.0

And that's what a header.

2:04.6

Great delivery.

2:05.2

Great. Deliver.

2:06.0

Very header.

2:06.3

It wasn't.

2:06.7

Very header. Do you know what's so incredible with that moment is because afterwards, Jose admitted, he said a couple of few weeks back, the keeper went up and just missed and nearly

2:15.6

scored. Yeah, against Porto. And that's in his mind, that particular, you think with all

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