The Real Reason You Keep Relapsing…- SF723
Stay Free with Russell Brand
Russell Brand
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🗓️ 29 May 2026
⏱️ 83 minutes
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I'm sitting down with Rick S for a conversation about addiction, recovery, faith and the deeper spiritual questions that sit beneath suffering and dependency. Drawing on decades of recovery work and his book *The Fat Book*, we explore the origins of the 12 Steps, the role of Carl Jung and Bill Wilson, the relationship between Christianity and recovery, temptation, forgiveness, institutional religion, spiritual warfare and what real transformation actually looks like. Beneath it all sits a bigger question: is addiction simply behavioural and chemical—or does recovery ultimately require something deeper, spiritual and transcendent?
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| 0:00.0 | Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand, actually, |
| 0:12.0 | controversial conspiracy theorist. |
| 0:14.0 | Trying to bring real journalism to the American people. |
| 0:18.0 | Hello there, you awakening wonders. |
| 0:20.0 | Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brown. |
| 0:22.7 | If you've been paying attention to our content lately, you'll recognize that we believe |
| 0:26.4 | that the solution to the problems we currently face include spiritual awakening, direct |
| 0:31.8 | participatory democracy to inoculate us against the power frenzied attempts to create global centralized control, |
| 0:40.9 | both commercially and through the state. So we're dedicating our time to talking to people |
| 0:45.1 | that can facilitate spiritual awakening, help us to learn how we can access the fuel, the fruit |
| 0:49.9 | that is our birthright, and also to people that help with energy independence and food independence, |
| 0:55.3 | ways of decoupling yourself from a corrupt state. |
| 0:57.7 | We're also talking about forms of protest that might be successful. |
| 1:00.4 | That's why I was fascinated when Tucker said, don't pay your credit card bills. |
| 1:03.4 | How do you get out of this system, this crunching mortgage, death grip system that wants you in continual debt, paying endless tax? |
| 1:10.7 | For the spiritual component, you could read my debt, paying endless tax. For the spiritual |
| 1:11.5 | component, you could read my book, Russell Brand, How to Become Christian in Seven Days. There's a link |
| 1:15.9 | in the description for that. You can have the audiobook for free of charge, which I think is better |
| 1:20.2 | because it's me talking, and surely that's what you need more of. And today's guest is also |
| 1:25.7 | someone that's going to be incredibly helpful because Rick |
| 1:29.0 | S wrote this book that shows how the literature around the 12 steps, and any of you that have |
| 1:33.9 | had an addiction issue, it's likely that 12 steps has been part of your recovery. What Rick S has done |
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