Trump is kind of the Reagan for our times, but, but, you know, Reagan really fit his era. And I think also

this is why Reagan has fallen a little bit out of favor after we had put him up in the Pantheon for

the past 25 years is a recognition that you can't dig a guy up from the grave, you know, let the poor

man rest. He did his part. But you can't just go back to from the grave, you know, let the poor man rest. He did his part,

but you can't just go back to the same old slogans of the 1980s. I think part of the reason

that politicians aren't quite as aspirational in their rhetoric now is the problems have gotten worse.

Ronald Reagan could minimize illegal immigration in the 1980s when there were relatively few of them and it wasn't a big problem.

When you have like 20 million of them with face tattoos bringing in fentanyl killing 75,000 Americans a year, this is a different situation and you need to get a little bit tougher.

Same thing, we're no longer the unchallenged global hegemon. You know, Reagan there, confident he was going to win the

Cold War and then leads to that post-war peace. That's one thing. Now you have China legitimately

threatening our interests. You have Russia, as weakened as Russia is, legitimately threatening

our interests. You have Iran legitimately threatening our interests. You have to speak a little

bit differently. So, yes, look, we could all take a note from Reagan on rhetoric.

He was a master of turning a phrase,

but we have to avoid the temptation to just go back and relive the 80s

because for some of us that was our childhood

or because we recognize it as a Halcyon era,

it wouldn't play today.

You know, there's a reason that we have Don instead of Ron today.

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