Right. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to making the argument. I'm your host, Nick Fradis,

and today we have a very special guest, Magot Wade, and I want to tell you how she first popped up

on my radar. I was watching her speak on a topic, and the way she was speaking about it is so

controversial, especially in certain academic circles. But the more she went into

details in her own experience, the more all of it just made absolute sense when she was

essentially saying that the problem facing entrepreneurship and wealth generation and prosperity

in Africa is not colonialism. It's not exploitation. it's not a lot of the other things that we

commonly hear. In fact, it's not even corruption in the traditional sense that we think of it,

but rather a system which systematically harms and obstruct entrepreneurs from being able to go

out there, produce goods and services, work with people,

and voluntary cooperation to meet their needs. And this is something she knows a lot about

from personal experience, being a successful entrepreneur, but also fighting back against some of the

common narratives that we see that seeks to explain all the problems, not just going on in Africa, but in all places

around the world right now. And so I just, I found the interviews that she has done with

people like Jordan Peterson to be truly fascinating and is an absolute honor to have her on here

today. So, my God, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me, Nick. Likewise,

it's a pleasure. So tell us a little bit, just just give our audience a little bit, kind of a quick introduction

to you and the work that you're currently doing, both from an entrepreneurial standpoint, but also

from an economic and I don't know if I want to use, I don't know if you'd use the word activist,

but certainly an advocate. Yeah to use, I don't know if you'd use the word activist, but certainly an advocate.

Yeah.

No, I actually, I very consciously call myself a prosperity activist, right?

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