Hey, so welcome back. It is Tuesday, and David, you've got lots of questions. I look through it and you're going to be hammering. I'm going to have to step away for a couple minutes after we go through some things and you're going to start on this interview with Dr. Doherty. But then I'll come right back in in a bit. David,

Daniel Penny was acquitted of all charges.

All charges.

And so I want to give you a little bit of perspective before we get into this.

And we're going to hear from,

we're going to hear from some of the people that that were outside calling for justice to be served and that somehow Jordan Neely's death was was

murder and that that they're they're going to they're going to go after people they're going to they're going to,

they're going to go after people. They're going to want their retribution.

So let me just tell you,

let me tell you the reality of this,

from my perspective,

from the community that he came from,

very broken community.

The knife is in the side of black people and poor communities.

It's in the side.

It lives there.

It's like, doop.

They just turn the knife over and over and over and over again.

Now, while they're turning the knife, they look over and they say, over there, those are

the people that did this to you.

And the people that are doing it to are the same people that are entrusting and that are, you know,

pushing out these NGOs and organizations and, and people in the community that are that are the

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