The Real Man Behind “I Love the Smell of Napalm in the Morning”
Our American Stories
iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2026
⏱️ 8 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Our American Stories, Colonel David Hackworth was a soldier’s soldier. He fought in the Korean War, commanded troops in the Vietnam War, and earned more than 90 awards for valor, making him one of the most decorated military figures in American history. But his legacy extends beyond medals and citations. In Vietnam, Hackworth became known for his bold leadership, unconventional tactics, and outspoken criticism of military bureaucracy. Years later, some of his real-life exploits would help inspire characters and dialogue in Hollywood films, including Apocalypse Now, but Hackworth’s war was no movie. Major General James “Mook” Mukoyama shares the story of the man, the myth, and the legend himself.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.3 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:14.1 | This is Lee Habib, and this is Our American Stories, |
| 0:18.8 | the show where America is the star and the American people. |
| 0:22.6 | Major General James Mukayama rose from his humble blue-collar Chicago roots to become |
| 0:28.2 | the first Asian American to command a U.S. Army Division. |
| 0:33.1 | General Mook, as he's known, amongst friends and people who know him, is the author of Faith, |
| 0:39.3 | family, and Flag, memoirs of an unlikely American samurai crusader. |
| 0:45.7 | General Mukayama served as a company commander under Colonel David Hackworth in Vietnam. |
| 0:51.7 | Hackworth was one of the most highly decorated infantry officers in the history of the United |
| 0:57.5 | States Army. |
| 0:58.8 | Here's the general with the story of Colonel David Hackworth. |
| 1:04.1 | When you're in the Army, when you leave an overseas assignment, they give you what's |
| 1:08.7 | called a dream sheet and you say where you like your next assignment to be, okay? |
| 1:15.2 | So here I am, I'm at Korea. |
| 1:17.7 | So I put in my dream sheet, and I said, I want to go to Fort Benning, Georgia. |
| 1:22.0 | I want to go to Fort Bragg, North Carolina. |
| 1:24.6 | That's where all the airborne units were located, okay? And they send me to Fort Lewis, |
| 1:30.3 | Washington, about as far away as you could, and not in an airborne unit, and now at the training center, |
| 1:41.0 | and we are training advanced individual infantry soldiers to go to Vietnam. That was our |
| 1:48.5 | mission. And I had met Colonel David Hackworth, one of the most highly decorated and renowned |
| 1:58.3 | infantry soldiers in the history of the United States Army. |
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