The Real Lives of Human Smugglers With Jason De León
Latino USA
My Cultura, Futuro and iHeartPodcasts
4.8 • 3.8K Ratings
🗓️ 14 March 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Future |
| 0:02.0 | Dear listener, I'm going to take you back to 2015, and author Jason De Leon is at a migrant shelter in Chappas, Mexico. |
| 0:21.6 | He's there for research, and he sees this trip as his goodbye to studying migration |
| 0:27.6 | because he wants to move in another direction, away from that subject matter. |
| 0:32.6 | And one of the nuns says to me, whatever you do, don't go outside. |
| 0:36.6 | And I said, why not? She's like, well, |
| 0:37.7 | because outside, that's where all the delinquentes are, all the malandros. And so this kind of |
| 0:44.6 | interests, Jason, he's not one to listen to this kind of advice. He's a very curious guy. He's an |
| 0:52.3 | anthropologist. And so I was like, well, I'll just go outside and see what's kind of going on. |
| 0:57.8 | And as soon as I got out there, I run into this group of kind of rough-looking young men who are hanging out. |
| 1:04.0 | You hear this like regga-ton, this is blasting. |
| 1:06.3 | It's a giant cloud of marijuana smoke. |
| 1:08.6 | And me as like someone who kind of grew up around guys like that |
| 1:13.3 | and context like that. Jason is half Mexican and half Filipino and he's a self-proclaimed army |
| 1:19.4 | brat. He grew up in places like South Texas and in Southern California. And he got good at |
| 1:25.6 | moving to new places at figuring out how to be the new guy. He got good at moving to new places, at figuring out how to be the new guy. |
| 1:29.9 | He got good at connecting with strangers. |
| 1:33.2 | So when Jason saw the pot smoke and these rough-looking young guys outside, he wasn't turned off or scared. |
| 1:41.5 | He was intrigued. |
| 1:43.3 | I, of course, immediately gravitate towards this group of young men who are like, who are you, |
| 1:49.4 | what do you want? |
| 1:50.4 | I said, oh, I'm an anthropologist. |
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