Hey, Peter.

Hey, Adam.

Hey, you know that feeling when you learn something and you work on it for like 25 years

and then you present it in front of like a thousand people and you realize that you

learned it wrong completely and you've been playing it in front of audiences the wrong way

for your whole life?

Do you know what that feels like?

I don't, but I did see what it feels like.

Great. I'm Adamannis. And I'm Peter

Martin. And you're listening to the You'll Hear a. Music and jazz advice and lifestyle. Elaborations coming at you. That's right. Coming at you today, sponsored by Open Studio, go to Open Studio. Go to Open Studio. For all your jazz lesson needs. Peter, I'm very excited about today's episode. We did an episode a few weeks back call. It was all about the accuracy of the real book,

but mostly dealing with like great American songbook standards. Was it about the accuracy or was it about the inaccuracy? It was about the inaccuracy. It was about the inaccuracy. We've got a lot of, and we've got a lot of love for that episode. We got a lot of hate. So we got a lot of real book defenders. Yeah. Real book detractors.

A lot of just controversy around it, which was fun.

And I thought we could kind of continue. a lot of real book defenders, real book detractors, a lot of just controversy around it, which was fun.

And I thought we could kind of continue the discussion around it

because it actually is really fun to talk about

and to just look at some of the discrepancies of how this book

or these charts that we've been sort of around our whole lives

can kind of influence the culture

of the music and then the culture pushes back. Yes. Very hard as it should. That's right. And then,

I mean, it's always a reminder to me how much these charts, even, you know, even though I feel like

I abandoned the real book long ago. And I was lucky because I had some really smart folks, even like I feel like I abandoned the real book long ago.

And I was lucky because I had some really smart folks. Even like I remember including my dad, I remember him looking at the real book. And like he's, he has such a good ear and stuff. And he heard something I was listening to and he was looking and he's like, that's not right. I mean, he didn't, he was, he's not like a jazz musician, but he's just a really good musician. He saw that on there. was kind of like, so I always had an aversion to it.

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