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Whistlestop: Presidential History and Trivia

The Reagan-Ford Vice-Presidential Dance | The Reagan Era

Whistlestop: Presidential History and Trivia

Slate Podcasts

Politics, History, News, Government

4.8 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2016

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Slate's podcast about campaign history, John Dickerson explains how Ronald Reagan almost became Gerald Ford’s vice president and vice-versa.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Whistle Stop, a podcast of campaign curiosities. I'm John Dickerson and Face the Nation.

0:18.2

Ronald Reagan was almost Gerald Ford's vice president, and Gerald Ford was almost Ronald Reagan's vice president.

0:23.8

And that's a funny thing, because neither man liked the other very much.

0:27.4

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0:59.1

Our whistle stop today is the afternoon of Saturday, March 15th, 1980.

1:02.2

It's a sunny day in Rancho Mirage, California,

1:07.1

former president Gerald Ford, wearing a gray suit, a blue button-down shirt,

1:10.7

walks out to meet a handful of reporters near the grapefruit tree in the front yard of his

1:11.7

office complex. In what he'd later called the toughest decision of his life, Ford took himself

1:16.5

out of the presidential race. America needs a new president, he said. His wife Betty was at his side.

1:23.7

I have determined that I can best help that cause by not being a candidate for president, which might further divide my party.

1:30.4

I'm not a candidate. I will not become a candidate. I will support the nominee of my party with all the energy I have.

1:38.4

Ford was deciding not to be divisive in a fight against Ronald Reagan, who was among the Republicans running that year.

1:46.5

Of course, as you remember, Reagan had made quite a different decision.

1:50.7

In 1976, he divided his party, and Ford blamed Reagan for costing him the presidency against Jimmy Carter,

1:58.4

by tearing him down in a long and protracted primary fight

2:02.9

that went all the way to the convention and then barely campaigning for Ford once he was

2:09.3

the nominee in the 1976 general election. Ford walked into his office that day and with a

2:15.7

raucous laugh said if I were a drinking man I'd have

2:19.1

myself a drink. This is the story of the Republican Party before its conservative revolution.

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