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Here is the dilemma.

The government, the cabinet, prime minister Netanya, want to conquer the rest of Gaza's trip.

Because the argument is that if you don't do it because you wait for the hostages,

you will get neither the hostages nor defeating Hamas.

Whereas Ayal Zamir, the IDF chief of staff says the hostages are going to get killed in this

operation.

So what we should do is rather than occupying the area, having a siege.

I'm not going to mince words here, Dan. I have never heard such extreme negative reactions

to any plan that I've ever covered, you know, since I've been a journalist, as to the plan

to somehow take over the entire

Gaza Strip in the near future and have a military rule of the entire Gaza Strip.

And because of that, there's a mega confrontation between the chiefs of staff and this

cabinet.

So, you know, this is a very, it's a very radical moment. It's a very radical moment.

It is 8.30 a.m. on Thursday, August 7th here in New York City. It is 3.30 p.m. on Thursday,

August 7th in Israel, as Israelis are processing news that a, quote, total conquest of Gaza will be brought to Israel's cabinet for a vote and is expected to pass.

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