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The Vergecast

The Razr Ultra proves flip phones are almost ready

The Vergecast

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News, Tech News, Technology

4.44.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Kids these days, you know? They love the '90s, they want everything to be colorful and bold and bouncy, and they really, truly love Snapchat. And the tech world is listening. On this episode, The Verge's Allison Johnson joins to talk about her review of the new Razr Ultra, the new-look Android 16, and why she thinks we're getting ever closer to a true flip phone resurgence. (Also: why we're not quite there yet.) After that, The Verge's Alex Heath explains what's going on with Snapchat, and how it's possible that the app is more popular than ever but still can't figure out how to cash in. It all makes us wonder: is there a business in chat at all? Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email [email protected]!) about a possible outcome for Chrome after the Google search trial ends. Further reading: Motorola Razr Ultra (2025) review: looking sharp The best folding phones you can buy Android’s youthful new design language just dropped Snapchat scraps ‘simple’ redesign as it loses users in North America Zuckerberg offered to buy Snapchat for $6 billion. Evan Spiegel explains why Snap is betting on Spectacles Breaking down the DOJ’s plan to end Google’s search monopoly Why are companies lining up to buy Chrome? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of really important technology with absolutely no business model.

0:09.9

I'm your friend David Pierce, and I am somewhere in the woods, in the mountains of Virginia.

0:15.1

This is the week every year that is Mother's Day, my wife's birthday, our wedding anniversary,

0:20.6

and this year, her grad school

0:22.8

graduation, congrats Anna, all in the span of seven days. So we try to get away, we try to have some

0:27.8

fun, and this time it was go sit in the woods and just be quiet. It's been lovely. Can't recommend

0:33.9

it enough, but that is not what we're here to talk about today. Today we're going to do two things on the show.

0:38.4

First, we're going to talk about a couple of really important new devices.

0:43.2

And by new devices, I mean flip phones.

0:45.8

The new Motorola Razor Ultra is out.

0:47.7

Alison Johnson reviewed it.

0:48.9

We're going to talk about that.

0:49.9

And we're also going to talk a little bit about whether this is finally the year of flip phones.

0:58.5

Then Alex Heath is going to come on and we're going to talk about Snapchat, we're going to talk about WhatsApp,

1:04.4

and we're going to talk about whether letting people talk to each other is actually a tech business that even exists.

1:08.1

We also have a really fun question on the Vergecast hotline, lots of stuff to do.

1:13.7

All of that is coming up in just a sec. But first, I'm going to be honest, just like a tiny bit more celebrating to do.

1:15.7

And also, I have not yet baked a cake.

1:17.1

So I got to go bake a cake.

1:18.0

Wish me luck.

1:18.9

This is the Vergecast.

1:19.6

We'll be right back.

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