This is the BBC.

Thank you so much for sticking with me on the Rat Line for ten podcasts.

This is an extra episode and it's a bit different.

It's sort of a glimpse behind the scenes.

A few weeks ago I met Otto Vector in person.

Well, not quite.

The man who reads Otto's voice so brilliantly in our podcast, Stephen Fry.

Stephen interviewed me at the BBC's Broadcasting House in London

and then he took questions from the audience.

I hope you might be interested in our conversation.

So here are some highlights.

APPLAUSE

I'd like to be here.

For some, it's hard to take that the point of view of a Nazi is being given.

To me, what's so interesting about being...

Well, my grandfather used to say it's very easy to have a name like Goldberg.

But imagine if your name was Himmler.

It's actually a terrible thing to be descended from a war criminal,

from someone who was responsible for one of the worst crimes that humanity has ever perpetrated.

And you can go two ways.

One is to become an absolute fanatical anti-Nazi,

into abominate your father's name.

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