Again and again, our health system has demonstrated what we've seen over the last year,

which is that we're all breakthrough and no follow-through.

Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast.

Here you'll find extended versions of the interviews from my show on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer, and it's been just over a year.

Can you believe it, since the first cases of coronavirus were reported in the United States.

As the death toll climbs and new, more contagious strains spread across the world, the battle

is far from over.

Today we're talking about the race to vaccinate hundreds of millions of people and how to prevent the worst-case scenario from playing out.

My guest is Dr. Atul Gawande, a leading public health expert and surgeon who served as pandemic advisor on Joe Biden's presidential transition team.

Let's get to it.

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Atul Gawande, great to be with you, sir.

Great to be with you.

So let's start with something you tweeted last week,

something optimistic. Johnson Johnson just released their latest results. And you said we miraculously

have at least three safe, highly effective vaccines. Miraculously is quite something for someone with your background. Tell me why

you're so shocked. The Johnson & Johnson shot is a one-shot vaccine as opposed to you shot, so much

easier to administer, refrigerated, and it had 100% effectiveness against hospitalizations and deaths and severe

...