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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

The Quiet Struggles We Carry Alone

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

For Mental Health Awareness Week, we speak with Charlie Mackesy about anxiety, grief, loneliness and the quiet struggles so many of us carry alone. The bestselling author of The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse speaks openly about anxiety attacks, loss, vulnerability, male loneliness and why asking for help matters. In this open and honest conversation, Charlie reflects on the dark periods that shaped him, the friends he has lost, and the inner critic so many of us live with. He also shares the practical tools that helped him through anxiety, and why connection, honesty and feeling loved matter more than perfection. We're Talking Mental Health If you’re struggling, you don’t have to face it alone. We’ve included support charities below: Samaritans - call on 116 123 or visit https://g2ul0.app.link/xghDmmYV4Wb Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM): https://g2ul0.app.link/npaQKXUV4Wb (00:00) Intro (00:42) Charlie Breaks Down the Darkest Period of His Life (04:36) How Paul and Charlie Actually Deal With Anxiety (12:48) Charlie’s ADHD Diagnosis and What It Changed (14:39) How Drawing Became Charlie’s Escape (16:12) Paul and Charlie on Grief and What Actually Helps (20:39) Charlie on the Loneliness Epidemic and Why It’s Growing (23:17) How to Silence Your Inner Critic and Build Gratitude Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to We're Talking.

0:02.0

This Mental Health Awareness Week, we sit down with Charlie Maxey for a deeply honest conversation about anxiety, grief, and the quiet struggles we often carry alone.

0:13.0

Charlie reflects on the moments that shaped him and why connection, not perfection, is what truly matters would you say that the darkest period of your life was happening while you were creating

0:46.3

either this book or the first book?

0:49.3

Was that the darkest period?

0:51.3

I don't think it was.

0:52.3

What was the darkest?

0:54.9

If we could tap into...

0:55.9

But they stay with me.

0:57.1

Yes.

0:57.4

I have memories that you.

0:58.6

They're dark moments where, you know, things catch up with you.

1:05.1

Things you've been running from.

1:07.9

And it causes this...

1:14.8

What do I do with this what have you been running from

1:19.3

well I think you know there was some

1:21.4

like when I was a boy

1:23.0

at that boarding school there was some dark things

1:25.0

that went on

1:25.5

and then losing friends.

1:31.2

And I think we all have periods which are extremely difficult

1:36.2

and cause us to go into dark places.

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