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Mysterious Radio: Paranormal, UFO & Lore Interviews

The Quest for Solutions to the Plastic Crisis

Mysterious Radio: Paranormal, UFO & Lore Interviews

Mysterious Radio

4.33.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In a recent study, researchers feared that every human being had microplastics inside their bodies. It's shocking, and the problem is only getting worse. My special guest is Erica Cirino, who's here to discuss her new book Thicker Than Water: The Quest for Solutions to the Plastic Crisis (https://www.amazon.com/Thicker-Than-Water-Solutions-Plastic/dp/1642831379/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RQGQ9QU0LXZI&keywords=thicker+than+plastic&qid=1704778758&sprefix=thicker+than+plastic%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-1&author-follow=B0979MK38F). Get it now on Amazon.About the book:Much of what you’ve heard about plastic pollution may be wrong. Instead of a great island of trash, the infamous Great Pacific Garbage Patch is made up of manmade debris spread over hundreds of miles of sea—more like a soup than a floating garbage dump. Recycling is more complicated than we were taught: less than nine percent of the plastic we create is reused, and the majority ends up in the ocean. And plastic pollution isn’t confined to the open ocean: it’s in much of the air we breathe and the food we eat. In Thicker Than Water: The Quest for Solutions to the Plastic Crisis, journalist Erica Cirino brings readers on a globe-hopping journey to meet the scientists and activists telling the real story of the plastic crisis. From the deck of a plastic-hunting sailboat with a disabled engine, to the labs doing cutting-edge research on microplastics and the chemicals we ingest, Cirino paints a full picture of how plastic pollution is threatening wildlife and human health. Thicker Than Water reveals that the plastic crisis is also a tale of environmental injustice, as poorer nations take in a larger share of the world’s trash, and manufacturing chemicals threaten predominantly Black and low-income communities. There is some hope on the horizon, with new laws banning single-use items and technological innovations to replace plastic in our lives. But Cirino shows that we can only fix the problem if we face its full scope and begin to repair our throwaway culture. Thicker Than Water is an eloquent call to reexamine the systems churning out waves of plastic waste.

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0:00.0

Hi there, I'm Kaytown and on this edition of Mysterious Radio. Oh, I'm an artist and I am a photojournalist and now an author and I'd been covering the story of plastic

0:35.4

pollution in my journalism for about five six years and saw that the problem

0:42.2

was really much more complex than I had first understood it to be.

0:47.0

So, like you, Ktown, I'm an ocean lover.

0:50.0

I've been someone who really spent a lot of time at the beach as a young

0:54.8

person and always noticed that the plastic problem was getting worse and worse and

0:58.8

then as a journalist in my 20s I had the chance to sail across the garbage patch, which was a really cool and unique opportunity.

1:06.4

And this was in 2016, so at that time, the issue of plastic pollution was still largely portrayed as an ocean issue.

1:14.3

So I was going out there with the frame of mind of, well, I really want to see what this place looks

1:19.2

like, number one and then number two, like how is there an actual garbage jump floating in the ocean?

1:25.0

It just seemed too unbelievable to be true and when I got out there I really learned

1:29.9

that the problem was so much more complex and actually so much worse than just you know the

1:35.2

floating garbage jump if only it was that easy to see it out there and clean it up with

1:39.8

the the real cause of the problem starts on land and I kind of traced my way back and that was

1:46.0

the basis for the book.

1:47.0

Yeah that's something that I would like to see from my own eyes.

1:51.5

Can you tell us the approximate location?

1:54.0

Yeah, sure. So the garbage patch really stretches across the entire Pacific Ocean,

2:00.0

but I went to the eastern side of it which is between the coast of California and then Hawaii.

2:06.4

So we sailed from Los Angeles to Honolulu and witnessed this swirling ocean gyre.

2:15.3

So, like, gyre is an ocean current

2:17.6

that can circulate and concentrate the plastics.

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