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In Our Time: History

The Putney Debates

In Our Time: History

BBC

History

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2013

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss the Putney Debates. For several weeks in late 1647, after the defeat of King Charles I in the first hostilities of the Civil War, representatives of the New Model Army and the radical Levellers met in a church in Putney to debate the future of England. There was much to discuss: who should be allowed to vote, civil liberties and religious freedom. The debates were inconclusive, but the ideas aired in Putney had a considerable influence on centuries of political thought.

With:

Justin Champion Professor of the History of Early Modern Ideas at Royal Holloway, University of London

Ann Hughes Professor of Early Modern History at Keele University

Kate Peters Fellow in History at Murray Edwards College, Cambridge.

Producer: Thomas Morris.

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0:00.0

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0:04.0

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0:11.1

Hello, the Church of St Mary's Putney stands on the South Bank of the Thames about six miles

0:15.8

upriver from central London. On the north wall of its name, a slate plaque commemorates a

0:20.8

seismic event which took place here during the English Civil War, which went on to influence

0:25.6

politics here and abroad for centuries. The possibility of modern democracy could be said

0:31.1

to have emerged here. On October 28, 1647, Oliver Cromwell and other members of the new

0:36.4

Model Army Met in St Mary's Church, as he turned out, to discuss a new constitution for England.

0:42.1

Charles I had been defeated and imprisoned, and it seemed a new future beckon.

0:46.4

There were still religious and political differences to be overcome, and over many days,

0:50.7

discussions on many days of discussions that participants tried to resolve them.

0:54.5

But within a month, the king had escaped, and the talks ended without agreement. Nevertheless,

0:59.2

the Putney Debates are commonly regarded as a major advanced in our idea of what democracy is

1:04.1

and how it can be realised. With me to discuss, the Putney Debates are,

1:07.8

just in champion, Professor of the History of Early Modern Ideas at Royal Holloway University of London,

1:13.9

Anne Hughes, Professor of Early Modern History at Keel University, and Kate Peters,

1:19.1

fellow in history at Murray Edwards College, Cambridge. Just in champion,

1:23.2

the Putney Debates took place five years after the beginning of the English Civil War. Would you

1:27.6

give us a summary of what that war was about? Potted history, and it all ordered,

1:33.6

King versus Parliament. By 1640, Charles I had really overextended his demands for

1:41.7

prerogative, and had alienated most of the local elites who were represented in Parliament.

1:47.5

So we had, in 1640, the need for a king to call Parliament to gain money to fight the Scots.

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