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The Cut

The Pursuit of Total Friendship: Nicole Cliffe and Daniel Mallory Ortberg

The Cut

New York Magazine

Personal Journals, Documentary, Arts, Fashion & Beauty, Society & Culture

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Nicole Cliffe and Daniel Mallory Ortberg met in the Hairpin comments section and quickly became long-distance friendship soulmates--they went on to start the website The Toast together. This week, they tell us about everything that's happened since they first bonded over Rebecca, answering questions like: How does a friendship change when one of you transitions? What about when one of you finds God? And who the fuck is Loretta?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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get out there and actively befriend. By that I do not mean meeting someone once

1:30.4

suggesting you both get a drink sometime and then I personally am

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great at this sort of liking their Instagram's indefinitely and maybe seeing them at a

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party every six months. These things are nice but these things do not tend to add up to an actual friendship.

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