The Purpose of Ghosts
Rune Soup
Gordon White
4.7 • 861 Ratings
🗓️ 22 December 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
At this time of year, when many of us are rudely awoken from our hard-earned slumber by multiple ghosts wanting us to support their gofundme or something, I thought we might look at ghosts.
What are they? Are they even real? And if they're not, what are they for?
And the exploration is framed by a series of strange experiences I had recently at Australia's most haunted site and possibly the cruelest place in the entire British Empire, Port Arthur.
Enjoy!
PS - Let me also take the opportunity to sincerely thank you for listening, watching, supporting and sharing the various Rune Soup offerings in 2025. Have a wonderful Christmas.







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| 0:00.0 | Do you know, I'm not even sure I believe in ghosts, which is strange, I guess, because, you know, I talk to the dead every day. |
| 0:22.4 | I've been teaching people how to talk to spirits for years. |
| 0:26.1 | Spirits, yes, but ghosts. |
| 0:30.8 | Well, they come with a lot of baggage, don't they? |
| 0:34.6 | Rattling chains and jilted lovers, throwing themselves off windswept cliffs, |
| 0:38.9 | or poisoned husbands coming back from the dead for the will reading to point ominously at |
| 0:44.9 | their murderous widows. Goes to somehow a different thing. So, for instance, I could hold up |
| 0:52.6 | pictures of different locations. |
| 1:02.3 | And literally everyone could pick the ones that are probably haunted versus probably not haunted. |
| 1:10.2 | If you had to pick between an abandoned amusement park and a newly built commercial greenhouse, |
| 1:10.8 | you would say that the amusement park was haunted |
| 1:13.3 | and the greenhouse wasn't. |
| 1:15.8 | But if ghosts are nothing more than the wandering spirits of the dead, |
| 1:20.9 | that shouldn't be the case. |
| 1:23.0 | A ghost is somehow more than that. |
| 1:25.6 | A ghost is a memory of a tragedy. |
| 1:30.3 | And if it has a purpose, it is some kind of reminding. |
| 1:36.6 | Is it also the spirit of a dead human? |
| 1:40.4 | Sometimes, maybe. |
| 1:43.6 | And so appropriately for the Christmas episode, let me elaborate on the purpose |
| 1:50.6 | of ghosts. It is, of course, a subtle Dickens reference, maybe not even that subtle. It is an |
| 1:56.6 | obvious Dickens reference. Let me elaborate with some stories from the most haunted place |
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