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48 Hours

The Puppet Master

48 Hours

CBS News

True Crime, News, News Commentary, Tv & Film

3.97K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In October 1997, newlyweds Heather and John Grossman were targeted in a drive-by shooting. They both survived but a bullet severed Heather’s spinal cord, paralyzing her from the neck down.  Heather was immediately certain that ex-husband, Ron Samuels, was behind the attack. “48 Hours" Correspondent Troy Roberts reports. This classic "48 Hours" episode last aired on 5/24/2008. Watch all-new episodes of “48 Hours” on Saturdays, and stream on demand on Paramount+. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

911.

0:03.0

9-1-1. Do you have an emergency?

0:20.0

Yes, we do.

0:21.6

We have shooting in a car, a North Federal in Yamada.

0:23.6

We have people with injuries.

0:25.6

Oh my God, she's from...

0:27.6

We're on the way.

0:28.6

They're on the way, they're on the way.

0:30.6

I don't think she's bleeding.

0:32.6

Even though the shooting happened nine years ago, it seems like it happened yesterday.

0:39.8

He said, do you want to make some good money?

0:42.2

Around 20,000, make it look like a robbery.

0:46.3

I thought we could get away with it.

0:49.3

On that day, the weather was beautiful and warm.

0:53.1

Heather and John Grossman were having a normal day.

0:56.0

We were driving a black Lincoln Continental.

1:00.0

My husband, John, was driving, and I was in the passenger front seat,

1:05.0

and John and I were on our way to lunch.

1:09.0

Slum's driving.

1:10.0

He's telling Runyon what to do.

1:11.6

I'm in the back seat.

1:12.6

And Runyon's sitting in the back seat with a rifle.

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