Hello and welcome to a very very special where to RICO edition of Slate Money your guide to the business and finance news of what is the IMS Spring Meetings Week. I am in D.C. where lots of meetings are going on.

My name is Felix Salmon. I work for Axios and Axios is where I am recording this

podcast with an incredibly special guest. We have as usual Emily Peck of the

Huffington Post. We have as usual Emily Peck of the Huffington Post.

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We have as usual Anna Schmanski.

Hello.

But most excitingly, we have Natalie Jaresko.

Natalie, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you so much.

Thanks for inviting me.

Natalie, what is your current job?

It's got a very long title, so I don't want to get this run.

I am the Executive Director of the Financial

Oversight and Management Board for Puerto Rico. And the job before that was

Minister of Finance for Ukraine.

So that is quite an astonishing resume.

We will talk a little bit about how you managed to find yourself running the finances,

not only for Ukraine but also for

Puerto Rico that's kind of amazing we are going to talk about how you where you're

planning to sort of transform Puerto Rico how you did transform Ukraine how you did both of these in the face of incredible natural

what the economists would call exogenous shocks, whether they're wars or hurricanes, and how you do it all, even in the face of popular

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