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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

The Public Psychology of Madeleine McCann (Chap 1 - Abduction)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Humberto takes a focused deep dive into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, and he and Dr Kirk unpack the public psychology behind the case, the reactions, and the myths that still surround it. December 22, 2025

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00:00 Who is the McCann family?13:27 The scene of the crime

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(By The Daily Telegraph. Copyright holders of the image of Madeleine at three are Kate and Gerry McCann. The age-progressed image was commissioned by Scotland Yard from forensic artist Teri Blythe for release to the public. Both images have been widely disseminated by the copyright holders, and have been the subject of significant commentary., Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=39861556)

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0:00.0

So, Berto, on a recent live stream, someone asked, when is the next Umberto deep dive?

0:07.1

Mm.

0:07.6

And I said, soonly, because he's working on something that I have no idea, even the topic.

0:14.9

You know, with the previous topics that you did the deep dive on, I didn't do any prepping.

0:20.7

So I was in the dark, but at least I knew who Jean-Beney was. Yeah, at some high level. But this time, you were saying, okay, the next deep dive we do has to be about blah, blah, blah. Do you know about blah, blah, blah. And I said, I have no idea who that person is. So much so I don't even remember the name.

0:39.1

So, Berto, deep dive us.

0:41.1

Take it away.

0:42.1

Yeah, this deep dive is going to be about the Madeline McCann disappearance.

0:46.5

Madeline McCann.

0:47.8

Yeah.

0:48.2

She disappeared when she was three years old.

0:51.3

And, you know, last time we talked about John Bonnet Ramsey, which was another

0:55.9

disappearance slash murder. And this one was even younger. She was three. So it's like really

1:01.9

heartbreaking. And like in the last one, there is one fact for sure. The little Madeline McCann

1:07.9

three-year-old is nowhere to be found. She is definitely disappeared.

1:12.3

So why did this topic be your next deep dive? Why were you so adamant about doing it?

1:18.3

When I was investigating the John Bonae Ramsey story, I kept running into this one. Everyone would

1:24.0

reference like, oh, it's like the McCann case, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because there were a lot of parallels, as we'll see. And it's another little girl

1:31.7

mysteriously banishing kind of thing. So another case where the public was on the fence

1:38.2

for a long period of time with limited information. And you're going to see as we unfold it, you're like, well, again, or like, that's similar to blah, and you're gonna see as we unfold it you're like

1:45.2

whoa again or like that's similar to blah blah blah that we discussed you know all right well

1:49.7

you're developing a specialty of some sorts yeah you're the missing child

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