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Hi, this is William Ramsey.

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Investigates on today's show of a very special guest.

His name is Steve Smith, and he wrote in 2016, the book, The Psychopath Machine,

the story of Resistance and Survival.

I've read it in its entirety.

And we were talking for 20 minutes in the pre-show, just kind of talking about information.

I did some background information.

The book is about him, but it's also about his brother, is involved in his story.

And it goes all the way back to these tests that took place in Oak Ridge, which is, I think

it's north of Toronto or in a suburb of Toronto.

But a lot of that stuff is gone, and he's done a video on the Fifth Estate.

I guess it was done a couple years ago.

It's called Psychiatric Treatment or Tortures.

You can watch him in that.

So I'll put a link to that on YouTube.

And maybe we'll pull it up because we can show some of these notorious characters.

But on the intro to the Psychopath Machine,

kind of famous author, John Ronson,

who wrote the many of stare-goats in the psychopath test,

kind of overlapping themes in this book,

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