The Psychology of the Menendez Bros (Chapter 5: The Horror)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 4 June 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, deserving listeners, this is the next chapter in our deep dive on the Menendez brothers. |
| 0:05.1 | The last episode, the full patron episode was, I don't know, two or three hours long, |
| 0:10.0 | and we watched a lot of very difficult testimony that Lyle provided in the trial. |
| 0:17.2 | Berto provided links and timestamps, and we watched watched a lot and it was hard to watch. |
| 0:23.0 | There was a lot of details given by Lyle. |
| 0:25.9 | Berto, you cried a few times, absorbing the, and let me ask you, what's it like to absorb |
| 0:32.5 | these extremely detailed, horrific, traumatizing stories? |
| 0:42.1 | Yeah, it's, uh, okay, so definitely over the years because we, we've been doing a lot, like we do a lot of, you know, killer stories and things |
| 0:48.2 | like that. But my ability and tolerance to these things has actually changed over the years. |
| 1:12.0 | Basically, I, I have to be self-aware and check in with myself as I'm doing it that this is not me being re-abused. And that these horrible things that happen, they are things that we can discuss, that it's okay to discuss them. So it's a lot, I guess it's a lot of self-talk, right? And also, there are moments where I need to take a break. So I did do that |
| 1:19.7 | through this. There were times where I'm like, I can't, like I got to come back to this. |
| 1:22.9 | All right. Yeah. Well, let's continue and let's introduce the podcast. This is the Psychology in Seattle |
| 1:31.0 | podcast and I'm your host, Dr. Kirkland. I'm a therapist and professor who are you, Bertrand. |
| 1:35.9 | I'm Umberto Castaneda and I am an inspector for coral reefs. So take us away. |
| 1:41.8 | All right. So I have some questions for you to start with. Because |
| 1:44.9 | yeah, like where we ended up last time, if you heard the whole episode in the patron zone |
| 1:49.2 | especially, we actually, so the thing took a twist. So far we had, we had this picture in our brains |
| 1:55.8 | of Lyle and Eric being these spoiled brats who, yeah, maybe their father was a workaholic. |
| 2:02.1 | Maybe he was even bossy. |
| 2:04.5 | But they were kind of spoiled brats who wanted the money and then they were told they weren't |
| 2:08.6 | going to get the money. |
| 2:09.9 | And so then they killed them and then they try to concoct the story where they were in danger. |
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