So, Birdo, this is part two in which we talk about the psychology of John Lennon's murder.

I don't know what I'm going to call this episode, but I thought there's going to be one whole

episode, but then I got almost all the way done with it, and then I thought, no, this has to be

two parts. So we're actually, I'm actually going, this is later, I'm recording the intro later.

So if I refer to this later on in this episode, if I refer to this as one episode, it's because

I didn't know at the time it was going to be two episodes. Let's do it. This is the psychology

set up podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm a therapist and a professor.

My name is Umberto Kassagne and I manufacture eraser heads. So the assassination,

the individual is 25 years old. It's October of 1980. Did you realize he was only 25, Birdo?

No, just the thought. If you had asked me randomly, yeah, if you had asked me randomly,

like how old, I'd be like, I don't know, like 30 something. Yeah. I mean, 25, it's very young,

a very young, young man with the prime of his life and he's wanting to come. So

October 1980, he buys a gun and he's going to kill John Lennon.

Flies to Hawaii from from Hawaii generic city and he lands and he's walking around New York City.

He knows where John Lennon lives and because it was a famous knowledge bit and he says in

an interview later that he was frightened that people would figure out his secret,

which is a sin of psychosis. Hard to know. I mean, because sometimes when you're up to no good,

you're kind of like, can people tell, you know, like you're high on pot or something.

So another little sin of psychosis, another sign that maybe people would

reading his mind that kind. So this, this is an odd one that I can sort of relate to in this

weird way. And maybe it is, it stems from that narcissistic thing. Like I had this all my life.

I still do, but way more attenuated. I would go to a public place or a party or something.

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