We started out talking about leadership. Leaders are limited only by their inability to see and deal with their past traumas, I believe.

So that becomes their primary limitation.

A lot of times, too, our best survival strategies in childhood which were wildly adaptive and

intelligent are the very things that are harming us and constraining our

leadership as adults. How do we take this pain inside of us and truly convert it into power?

When you understand your triggers, you are unstoppable. And the other thing I say to people too is like if it's a trigger it's never a surprise.

This is another big twist I think for your listeners.

Dr. DeGangee so stoked to have you here today.

I appreciate you being on the show.

Thanks for having me, Mark.

I'm excited to be here as well.

Yeah, it's my pleasure.

I'm really excited to learn about neuropsychology. Like, to me, I would assume that anything to do with psychology had to do with neurology

but I assume by neuropsychology you're looking at the physiological

functioning and what does that mean neuropsychology?

Yeah so I am a neuropsychologist which means I'm a clinical psychologist

with specialized expertise in the brain and you know psychologists are

obviously incredibly interested in emotion and behavior I have a lot of

neuroscience training I've conducted a lot of neuroscience research and my expertise really sits in the

intersection of the brain, emotion, and leadership. Okay. And you really can't

talk about leadership. I think a perfect synonym for leadership is actually relationship.

Right. So I really study the brain's effect on our emotion and our relationships.

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