All right, Berto, it's chapter three in our deep dive on the Columbine shootings and the psychological speculation that we might have regarding the two shooters and looking into the actual data.

Right.

We're totally speculating based on limited information, but I think it provides an

educational experience for me and maybe listeners to hear us talk about it and debate and

speculate, not to say that we know what's happening with those two guys, but to use it as a jumping off point to talk about things that I think need to be fleshed out on the Internet today.

There's a lot of talk about narcissism and psychopathy and lack of empathy that seems to be thrown around in a way that illustrates to me that more education is necessary for the internet.

Because one, it's good to be educated, too. In rare circumstances, you might come across people

like this. They're not likely to commit mass murder, but they are likely to create a lot of

havoc in your life. Yeah. And having an understanding of it might help us to identify that early, maybe avoid it.

Also, for clinicians out there, it's always helpful to get a reminder of these constructs

so that you can identify it and that sort of thing.

But anyway, this is the Psychology Seattle podcast.

I'm your host, Dr. Kirkonda.

I'm a therapist and a professor.

My name is Umberto Cassignette, and I am a Chachacharayabom diffuser.

Halloween, I saw a bunch of cover bands, and one of them was the runaways.

Oh, really?

So young women in Seattle apparently even know the runaways, which is cool. Which was bizarre to me. And they dressed up as the runaways and performed that song and others. Where was this at? It was at that bar that's at the bottom of the West Seattle Bridge, you know, just heading into Del Ridge. I think you've played there before. I think so. And I've played there before, too. That was where like, I think you were the only audience member, right? Yeah, right.

No, there were a few others. Yeah. Anyway, so where do we begin today's chapter?

All right. So we were talking about Eric Harris still. We talked about the incident where him and Dylan

had broken into a van and we were weirdly lucky to have

excerpts of the actual text of both an essay he wrote for school. Oh, and as well as the

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