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Hi, this William Ramsey.

Welcome to William Ramsey investigates on today's show.

I have a very special guest.

Returning guest is named Sean McCannie, operates the Wake, the Dead podcast.

I'll put a link to the podcast in the show notes.

Today's show will be a very dark show.

It's definitely not safe for work.

It may not be safe anywhere if you are on the ledge

mentally or you know, stressed out. This might not be the show for you. It's it is part of this

theme I've been doing within the last couple months is this deviant artwork, art world or

degenerate or transgressive that Epstein was

involved in, I would say heavily involved in. And it's this kind of new art that grew up

after maybe World War II or even after the 60s is maybe it's fairly recent, I think,

within the last 50 years. It's part of the change in the culture and maybe it's fairly recent, I think, within the last 50 years.

It's part of the change in the culture.

And whether it's CIA Iran or some Intel op, maybe is a larger question I can't answer. Certainly, I'm doing a show next week with Jeremy Kuzmurov about Timothy Leary and his direct ties to intelligence and his admitted ties to intelligence

as a change, cultural change agent, this connection to so many people in the counterculture,

really which become the culture.

Like he was friends with Leonardo DiCaprio's dad.

His archivist was Winona Ryder's dad,

like all these people who like are A-listers really are filtered through this guy,

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